Wednesday, December 29, 2010

Ratcliff family line

Samuel Ratcliff
b 31 Mar 1700, Anderbies Creek, Talbot County, MD
Married Rachael Warner, daughter of William Warner and Magdalene Gary, in 1724. Wife Rachel was the widow of a man named Fairbrother.
Samuel Ratcliff I died before 27 January 1778 at St. Mark's Parish, Craven Co, SC.

Samuel Sr's son, Samuel Ratcliff, Jr.
b 1726 in Talbot County, MD
Married Susannah Evans about 1758 in NC.
Samuel died sometime before 10 June 1782 at St. Mark's Parish, Craven County, SC.

Samuel Jr's son, William Ratcliff Sr.
b 1750's
Died sometime after 1790.

William Ratcliff Sr's son, William Ratcliff
b 1774?
Died, 1827, Kershaw County, SC
Married Sarah ______? (born 1786) - May have been daughter of Josiah Parker.
Sarah died 26 Feb 1864 in Kershaw County, SC.

William Ratcliff's son, Samuel Ratcliff (3)
b about 1805 (this correlates with the data of 1850 census, which shows him as age 45).
Born in Kershaw County, SC. It appears that Samuel lived in Kershaw SC long enough to administer his father's estate in 1827. He then moved to Leake County, Mississippi before moving to Dallas County Arkansas. Died between 1853 & 1860 in Manning, Dallas County, AR.

Samuel's first wife appears to have been Narcisse Marshall, whom he married sometime between 1825 and 1830 in Kershaw, SC.  Note that one of the children from union was Narcissa. I believe the mother was Narcisse with an 'e' on the end, and daughter was Narcissa with an 'a' on the end. Son Lafayette Ratcliff was born of this first marriage.

Samuel's son from marriage to Narcisse Marshall, Lafayette Ratcliff. 
Some records show him as Marcus Lafayette Ratcliff.
Lafayette was born in Arkansas in 1856 or on 15 January 1851 in Dallas County AR.
Died 1897 and buried in Taylor Cemetery.
Some census records show his father was born in Ga (but we see here SC) and some census records show his mother was born in Ga (we see here SC)
LaFayette married Ann Porter [Alternate: Anna Porter]. (Ann was born in Arkansas). LaFayette Ratcliff and Ann Porter were married on 14 February 1875 in Dallas County, Arkansas. Ann Porter Ratcliff died in 1932.

Son of LaFayette Ratcliff and Ann(a) Porter, Louis S. Ratcliff
Alternate spellings seen for Louis S. Ratcliff you may see are Louis Stanley Ratcliff, Louis Sidney Ratcliff. Was born about 1876. Married Amelia Elizabeth Lemons on 16 December 1906.
Resided in Grant County Arkansas.

Other names for Amelia are Amealy E. Lemons (listed this way, probably in error, on some census records, but her gravestone reads Amelia). Also known as "Bessie" and appears on some census records this way, but Bessie was a nickname (this is firsthand information from her son, James M. Ratcliff, 1924-2005)

Tuesday, December 28, 2010

Louis S. Ratcliff family on 1920 Census

Lewis S. Ratcliff family on 1920 Census.


In the 1920 Census, Bessie (Amelia Elizabeth) is shown as age 30, married to Louis age 38 (incorrectly), with children Lilly age 17 and Lizzie age 16. Also listed are Alden (should be Alvin) age 9, and Burnice (should be Burness) age 6 months.




James won't be born until 4 years later.


See the record here  

Louis S. Ratcliff family on 1910 census

In the 1910 Census,
Louis S. Ratcliff  (born 1876) is listed as age 34 and married to A.E. Ratcliff  who is 19 (that would be Amelia Elizabeth), and daughters listed as 6 year old Lizzie and 8 year old Lillian (These were Louis's daughters or step-daughters from an earlier marriage of Louis' who later married Tunnicliff brothers).
When Amelia and Louis were married on December 16, 1906, she was 16 years old and Louis was 30. The marriage took place in Grant, Arkansas.

In 1910, the Census documents that the family is living in Tennessee (city of), in Grant County, AR.
Also listed living at the home are James Flore age 35 and Owen Flore age 5 from Illinois (I don't understand who these people are...yet). The relationship to Louis Ratcliff (head of household) was not documented on the Census.
See record 

Name: Louis S Ratcliff
Birthplace: Arkansas
Relationship to Head of Household:  Self
Residence: Tennessee, Grant, Arkansas
Marital Status: Married
Race : White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year:
Father's Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother's Birthplace: Arkansas
Family Number: 64
Page Number: 4
HouseholdGenderAge
  Louis S Ratcliff M 34y
Spouse A E Ratcliff F 19y
Child Lizzie Ratcliff F 6y
Child Lillian Ratcliff F 8y
James Flore M 35y
Owen Flore M 5y




NOTE: I personally knew Lizzie and Lillie. I knew Lizzie better, because my parents took me for a visit to her family's home in Ohio. Before Lizzie went to live with her daughter in Wadsworth Ohio, she livd in Calico Rock Arkansas (If I am remembering correctly). Both these ladies were just as nice as could be.

August Ludwig Herde - Susie "Susan" George marriage

August L. Herde was from Soldier, Kansas. His bride Susie Elmira George was from Carl, Kansas.
At the time of their marriage on November 15, 1905, he was 29 and she was 19.

Amelia (sometimes Amealy) Lemons Ratcliff Taylor

Amelia Elizabeth Taylor (from death certificate)
Father: L.A. Lemons
Mother: Joyce Jane Linscomb
Born Sept 3, 1890
Died 12 Jan 1956
Age 65. Widowed

P. E. Robertson

P.E. Robertson on 1880 census as mother of Lafayette Ratcliff.
She was born in 1825 in Georgia. Her father was born in New York, her mother also born in New York.
At the time of the 1880 census, she is living with her son Lafayette and his family. She is widowed and 55 years old.

Lewis Ratcliff - Amealy Lemons

Lewis S. Ratcliff
Born 1876, married Amealy E. Lemons (age 16) on 16 Dec 1906 in Grant, Arkansas.
See marriage record info.

On the 1880 Census,
Lewis was 4 years old. Living in Manchester, Dallas, Arkansas. Born 1876 in Arkansas.
Father's name: Lafayette Ratcliff. Lafayette born in Arkansas.
Mother's name: Ann Ratcliff. Ann was born in Arkansas.
See record

--Lewis has a little sister named Lilly S. Ratcliff, she was born in 1879.

1900 Census Frank Herde

1900 Census,

Frank Herde, father of August L. Herde
Frank is age 59 and widowed.
Residing: Franklin Township (excl. Holton city), Jackson, Kansas.
Born in Germany in January 1841.
Parents were born in Germany.
Frank was head of household.
Immigrated to USA in 1860.

Children in home:
Frank, age 21; Ida, age 18; Lilla (instead of Lillie), age 16; Otto












1910 Census data for August L. Herde

The 1910 Census finds the August L. Herde family living on the Pottawatomie Indian Reservation, Jackson, Kansas. They had 3 children at this time. See info here

1920 Census for August L. Herde

The 1920 Census finds the August Ludwig Herde family living in Pottawatomie Kansas.
August is age 43, his wife Susie E. Herde is 33. Living with them are children: Francis, age 13, Edwin, age 11; Victor, age 10; Karl is listed in error as "Carl," age 9; Marie, age 6; and Arnold, age 4 yrs, 7 months.
See data here

1900 Census for August L. Herde

August Ludwig Herde
1900 Census
In 1900, August is 23 and living with his older sister Martha Herde Garner, her husband William, and August's nephew William Jr. in Grant Township, Jackson, Kansas.
August is listed as a farmer.
Parent's place of birth listed as Germany.

Frank and Sophia Pagel Herde with baby Martha Photograph

Frank and Sophia (Pagel) Herde with baby Martha

Franz Herde and Maria Preusner Herde Photograph

Franz and Maria Preusner Herde,
Silesia Koppernig Germany

Grandparents of August Ludwig Herde, Ida Herde, Frank Herde,
Martha Herde, Lillie Herde, Otto Herde and others.

Old Herde family photograph

Herde brothers and sisters portrait, date unknown.

Back row: Lillie Herde (married surname would become Reamer), August Ludwig Herde (known often as A.L. Herde), Ida Herde (married surname would become Coulson).

Front row: Frank Herde, Martha Herde (married surname Garner), Otto Herde.

http://www.onegreatfamily.com

Monday, July 19, 2010

Old George and Herde family photo

This is a photograph of the George family (Circa?)
Men of Herde / George Families. About 1920

I was told this list was left to right, but it doesn't match up with my existing knowledge and remembrance of some of the people in the picture, so I've made notations in italics.

Edwin Otto Herde, b. 24 Apr. 1908, d. 20 Jun. 1998
Carroll George, brother of Susie Elmira George Herde
Victor George Herde, b. 21 Jul. 1909, d. Mar. 1964
Arnold Leon Herde, b. 20 Jun. 1915, d. 20 Oct. 1974
Marie Maye Herde, 2 Feb. 1913, d. 28 Apr. 2005
August Ludwig Herde (behind Marie in white dress), b. 12 Oct. 1876, d. 16 Dec. 1974
Karl Elmore Herde, b. 6 Jan. 1911, d. 5 Feb. 1995
Francis Marion George (man in dark hat holding coat over arm), b. 26 Mar. 1855, d. 8 Jun. 1930. Father of Susie Elmira George Herde
.
If you click on the photo to make it larger, then you can right click to save it to your computer. Please do not link directly to the photo, but save it to your computer files.

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Friday, July 16, 2010

Photo of the Herde "boys"

Sons of August Ludwig Herde and Susie Elmira George Herde
(about 1925) L to R - -Francis, Edwin, Karl, Victor and Arnold.

Click on image to view larger, then right click it to save it to your computer.
Please do not link directly to this picture.

Wednesday, July 7, 2010

Marie Maye Herde Bryant 1913-2005

Marie Maye Herde Bryant
February 2, 1913-April 28, 2005

Marie Maye Bryant was born on February 2, 1913, near Holton, Kansas, to A. L. and Susie (George) Herde. As a young girl she moved with her family to Billings, Oklahoma, where she grew up and attended Billings Public Schools graduating in 1931. She then furthered her education by attending Northern Oklahoma Junior College in Tonkawa, Oklahoma, where she majored in education.

In 1934 she married Walter Leo Bryant in Billings and they settled on a farm south of Billings and she began teaching school. After they began a family she returned to the home and served her family as a homemaker.

In 1964 she began working at the Billings Fairchild Center. Her husband preceded her in death in 1966 and she continued to make Billings her home. In 1971 she was baptized into the Jehovah's Witness and was a faithful witness until the time of her death.

In the mid-1970's she moved to Blackwell to make her home. In 2003 she moved to Perry, Oklahoma, to be near her daughter. She enjoyed oil painting and her family, especially her grandchildren and great grandchildren.

She is survived by two daughters, Judy Garris of Smyrna, Georgia, and Lois Luthye of Perry, Oklahoma; two sons, Pat Bryant of Glendale, California, and Lloyd Bryant of Hot Springs, Arkansas; two sisters, Doris Ratcliff of Savannah, Georgia, and Jane Best Russell of Stillwater, Oklahoma; a brother, Francis Herde of Billings, Oklahoma; nine grandchildren; twenty-one great grandchildren; and several nieces, nephews and cousins.

She was preceded in death by her parents; three daughters, Sandra Bryant, Karen Smith and Elsie Bonham; and four brothers, Edwin, Victor, Karl and Arnold Herde.

Edwin Otto Herde 1908-1996

Edwin O. Herde, 88, Lee's Summit, Mo., formerly of Parnell and Ravenwood, died Thursday, June 20, 1996, at White Ridge Health Care Center, Lee's Summit.

Born April 24, 1908, in Soldier Kan. to August Ludwig and Susie Elmira George Herde, he was a heavy equipment operator and a farmer.

He married Myrtle Lavina Hanes, Feb. 26, 1933, in Piedmont, Kan.

Mr. Herde and his wife moved in 1945 to Parnell (from Enid Okla.), where he farmed and continued working in construction until retiring in 1973. He moved to Ravenwood in 1982 and in 1993 he moved to White Ridge Care Center. He was a member if the Ravenwood Methodist Church.

He was preceded in death by his wife;parents; and three brothers, Arnold Herde, Victor Herde and Karl Herde.

Survivors include one son, Edwin Ellis Herde of Lee's Summit; one daughter Mary Elmira Musick of Sheridan, Wy.;three sisters, Jane Best of Stillwater Okla.; Doris Ratcliff of Savannah Ga., and Marie Bryant of Blackwell, Okla.; four grandchildren and four great-grand-children.

Visitation will be held from 1 to 2 p.m.,June 23, at Langsford Funeral Home, Lee's Summit.

The family will visit with friend from 12:30 to 1:30 p.m., Monday June 24 at the Ravenwood United Methodist Church.

Graveside services will be held at 2 p.m., June 24, at Rose Hill Cemetery, Parnell.

The family requests no flowers, but memorials may be made to the Ravenwood United Methodist Church or Rose Hill Cemetery, Parnell.

Arrangement are under the direction of Langsford Funeral Home, Lee's Summit.

2 Herde news articles from the 1970s

Mr. and Mrs. August L. Herde

To Mark 65th Anniversary

Mr. and Mrs. A. L. Herde, Billings, will observe their 65th wedding anniversay Sunday with a family dinner at noon. Friends of the family are invited to call at 1 p.m. in the Billings Christian Chruch fellowship hall. No gifts are requested.


Susie George and A. L. Herde, were married Nov. 15, 1905 at the home of her parents Mr. and Mrs. F. M. George, 15 miles southwest of Holton, Kan. with only immediate family members present.


Mr. and Mrs. Herde have eight children, Francis and Arnold Herde and Marie Bryant all of Billings; Karl Herde Aikens, S.C.; Edwin Herde of Parness, Mo.; Lois Jane Best of Stillwater; and Doris Ratcliff of Sterling Heights, Mich. A son, Victor, died in 1964.


They also have 27 grandchildren and 28 great-grandchildren.


Still residing in Holton is Mrs. J.E. Coulson, Mr. Herde's sister, who played the wedding march for them and also attended their 50th anniversary 15 years ago.


The Herdes took up housekeeping on a farm 10 miles south of Soldier City, Kan., and moved south of Holton in 1909. They moved to Oklahoma in 1918 after which they moved to a farm near Billings and later into the town of Billings.


Mrs. Herde does all her own housweork including making her own bread and syas she loves to cook. She says her recipe for a happy marriage is, "Be honest with one another and don't be selfish."


Herde, a retired farm, was 94 years old Oct. 12. He walks four blocks to town every morning to get the mail and buy groceries. The family believe in togetherness, having attended church, picnics and other family activities together.


(Article contains a picture of Mr. and Mrs. A. L. Herde, 1905 and a picture of Mr. and Mrs. Herde, 1970.

1970 "Perry Journal", county seat, he was 98 when he died.


A. L. Herde, now 94 years young, is looking foward to celebrating his 95th birthday which will be October 12th. Along with this distinction of being our oldest citizen is the fact that Mr. and Mrs. Herde will be celebrating their 66 years of marriage next November 15th, which we believe is also a record for the length of time for both couples to be as active as Mr. and Mrs. Herde.


Every day Mr. Herde walks to town to get the groceries and the mail from their home by himself as Mrs. Herde said "he walks too fast for me to keep up". Mr. and Mrs. Herde were married in 1905 near Holton, Kansas. First coming to Billings in 1923 living northwest of town and then to their farm and finally moved in to town in 1944.


Mr. Herde's favorite hobby is his garden. They ate new potatoes on May 20th from this garden and he works at this so diligently that there is not a spear of grass to be found in it. For pets they have a parakeet called "Inkie" but he is not learning to speak as well as their former bird named "Bobby." Bobby was quite a talented bird and had learned to speak various phrases distinctly, "Inkie" provides both Mr. and Mrs. Herde enjoyment but Mrs. Herde spoke with regret of the passing of Bobby, due to a cold.


Both Mr. and Mrs. Herde are members of the First Christian Church in Billings and on the day of this interview Mrs. Herde had returned from the meeting of the Women's Council of which she has served in various capacities - that of being president and most important the reporter for the last number of years.


Mrs. Herde has various hobbies such as crocheting, and her church work but writing has been the main one. Prior to moving to Billings she wrote for the Shawnee Herald and the Macomb papers, both in Pottawatomie County, also 30 years for the Perry Journal. This talent of Mrs. Herde was very helpful in this interview as she knew just what kind of things were needed to be interesting and was very gracious in helping.


The children of the couple are Francis Herde of Billings, Karl Herde of Acken, South Carolina, Mrs. Marie Bryant, and Arnold Herde, of Billings, and Lois Jane (Mrs. Ted Best) of Stillwater, Mrs. Doris Ratcliff of Sterling Heights, Michigan. Victor, another son, passed away in 1961 with a heart attack. They have 22 grandchildren and the same number of great-grandchildren.


In reminiscing, Mrs. Herde recalled the first movie they attended before they were married, which was "The Great Train Robbery" and was shown upstairs int he Woodman Hall located about 15 miles west of Holton. Just seeing the movie was exciting but during the show the film caught on fire and the operator was badly burned but everyone escaped without injury. Everyrone was running and was rather panicky trying to get down stairs but Mrs. Herde said she just remained real clam until it was all over and then afterwards got rather weak.


After their marriage one of the most exciting experiences that Mr. Herde had was when he was hauling a hog in the back of a wagon coming down hill when the wagon overturned and landed in a ditch. Mrs. Herde was outside and saw the team coming with just the running gears and turned the horses by waving a chair and drove them into a field nearby and finally the wagon tongue was driven down into a plowed ground stopping the run-away team. She said that she was really relieved when she looked up and saw Mr. Herde come walking down the road. The accident had happened about one-half mile from their home.


Another exciting incident also involved Mr. Herde's team of horses and took place during the day while plowing. It seems as though he had plowed thru a bumble bee's nest and took off his coat to fight the bees off when he did this the waving of his coat scared his team and they run off dragging the plow behind. But as Mrs. Herde said she was thankful that it "all turned out all right though.:


Truly Mr. and Mrs. Herde are a couple that Billings can be proud of having among their senior citizens and they are wished many more years of happiness.

Friday, February 12, 2010

RATCLIFF Dallas County AR

I descend from Richard Ratcliff, born 10 October 1661 in Rossendale, Lancashire England, died 1 June 1721 at St. Michael's Parish, Talbot County Maryland, at age 59. Richard Ratcliff married Mary Caterne on May 24, 1691 at Easton in Talbot County Maryland. They married at the Tuckahoe Creek Friends Meeting House.

You can read the whole descendancy narrative here. It is a very long file, so it's best to use the 'find' function on your computer to find a particular name.

Found on Rootsweb:

ix) Marcus Lafayette RATCLIFF was born on 15 January 1851 at Dallas
Co., AR. He married Ann Porter on 14 February 1875 at Dallas Co., AR. He
died circa 1897.

(a) Salley RATCLIFF was born at AR.

(b) Lewis S. RATCLIFF was born at AR.
(Lewis was my paternal grandfather)

(c) Patty RATCLIFF was born at AR.

(d) Joseph RATCLIFF was born in December 1884 at AR.

(e) Octmous (Que) RATCLIFF was born in February 1886 at AR.

(f) Augustus Winfield (Gus) RATCLIFF was born on 16 September 1888
at Dallas Co., AR. He married Ethel Pritchard on 24 May 1917 at AR.
He died on 23 December 1970 at AR at age 82.

(g) Frank RATCLIFF was born in 1891 at AR.

x) Narcissa RATCLIFF was born circa 1852 at Dallas Co., AR. She married
Thomas Fite on 23 October 1869.

(a) Samuel Fite was born circa 1870 at AR.

(b) Ann Fite was born circa 1873 at AR.

(c) Enoch Fite was born circa 1878 at AR.

Saturday, January 2, 2010

Surname Herde meaning

Here is the meaning of the last name Herde. I had always heard that it was from "herd" or like a flock or group of animals - and that is what Herd, the English or Scottish surname means.

But in our Herde surname, the meaning is German - from a short form of any of various Germanic personal names composed with hard like "strong" and "hardy."

Friday, January 1, 2010

Learning to drive in the early days

My uncle, Francis Herde (1907-2009), was the first in the family to own an automobile. Today, we are taught to drive by someone else. We may even hire a company to teach us to learn to drive. We study driving laws, then we take the driving test. We get a license.

But back then, there were no classes (that I know of) and there wasn't anyone around to teach Uncle Francis how to drive. He taught himself how to drive by using the manual that came with the automobile! I'm going to guess that this was probably between 1927-1935.

Herde family lore says that Francis persuaded his father, August L. Herde (1876-1974) to drive the car. August ended up losing control and driving into a bale of hay. The joke was that they said August said "Whoa!" to the car, like someone would to a horse. I suppose he probably did, since horses were what he was accustomed to 'driving,' but I don't think he ever confused that car with a horse!

Come to think of it though, I never remember my grandfather August Herde having a car. I think I remember his wife Susie Herde (1886-1973) driving, but I don't remember ever seeing Pop drive. I know he walked to town (Billings, Oklahoma) to buy a newspaper and visit a little bit every day. He walked to town until his death at age 98.

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